Fri Aug 1, 2014 10:29AM GMT
Press
TV has conducted an interview with Sukant Chandan, a political analyst,
from London, to discuss about Israel’s atrocities against Palestinians
in the besieged Gaza Strip.
What follows is an approximate transcription of the interview.
Press TV: Over 1,423 people have been killed, over 8,000 injured, 24 percent of Gazan population is now displaced, 103 UN facilities have come under attack with two main compounds damaged, over 9,000 homes have been destroyed, 130 schools damaged and 24 medical facilities damaged or destroyed and let's not forget that the power plant in Gaza is in tatters and this is a human cost of war, can this ever be justified and will Israel ever will be held accountable ?
Sukant Chandan: ... I remember my comrades saying to me well over a decade ago, my comrades and colleagues from Gaza, they said we don’t watch these Hollywood action movies so cool, we don’t watch these movies of things being blown up, because we are living that life, ... what exactly the same system that is producing these films which are designed to take away, to actually eradicate the humanitarian sensitive feelings that we may have for oppressed people like our dear beloved brothers and sisters and children in Gaza, yes there must come a day that the enemy is held accountable.
Press TV: Mr. Chandan I will get to the issue of the resistance in a bit, but just as a few minutes ago we did here the White House spokesman Josh Ernest criticizing Israel for its attack on a UN school in Gaza, he described the shelling as a code totally unacceptable and totally indefensible, now he is also said that civilian casualties from Israeli attacks in Gaza are too high and he made the comments just hours after the US decided to give Israel three hundred million dollars worth of ammunition from its secret depot with Israel, is this not an example of rather the US double standards when it comes dealing with Israel, specifically as we see Kerry shuffling from country to country around the world trying to act as an honest broker of peace ?
Chandan: Absolutely, but to say that they have double standards that assume that they have one consistent way of dealing with the world, they do not. ..... That Obama is lecturing Russia on being nice to its neighbor, i.e. Ukraine, but none of that is mentioned to the United States’ primary ally the white colonial settler state so-called Israel. When it comes to occupied people of Palestine, so we can see this ranked hypocrisy that is leveled against us, I come back to the issue that how we are going to match and counter this rolling strategic victories not only of the resistance actors but also of empire in the region, we know that unity is the only antidote that would lead us out of this disease, out of this contamination of disunity and being powerless in coming to the defense of Gaza. Unity is the antidote by which Iran, Egypt, the resistance in Palestine and Syria, Lebanese Hezbollah, Algeria and others in the region and wider in global south should come together and unite and face the common enemy.
Press TV: Well Mr.Chandan as you talked about the resistance that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are putting force against Israeli onslaught of the Gaza Strip, now after the attack on a market place in Shojaieye that we saw at least 24 people being killed there, Hamas released a statement and it said that Israelis are committing a deliberate act of revenge and mass murder after feeling to make any military progress in the offensive against the Palestinian resistance, do you see it that way that Israel has failed to achieve the military goals that it set out to achieve ?
Chandan: Absolutely, Hamas and al-Qassam brigade are part of a plural versal resistance that includes PFLP, DFLP, the al-Quds brigades and the popular resistance communities and others. The whole united resistance including the Hamas actually want to say that this is a manifestation of frustration of the enemy that 60 or 70 of the occupation troops have been eliminated by the resistance and really we have seen this time and time again, haven’t we? we have seen UN institutions in Gaza being targeted directly by the enemy and we also saw that let’s not forget in the brutal occupation of the white colonial settler state in Lebanon, remember in Qana, of a UN compound in the late 90s, it was targeted it was full of scores of families and scores were martyred there and again in July 2006 the same United Nation building in Qana which I visited in 2007 was again targeted, so this is the nature of the beasts and the white colonial settler sate is an integral part of the so-called West. It’s the neo-colonial international entity in which we are facing and the people of Gaza are bearing the brunt and the people of Gaza deserve the solidarity of all the countries of global south and of course all pro-humanity people across the planet.
Press TV: We earlier saw the Palestinian envoy to the UN speak to reporters when he said that I agree when Palestinian say, specifically in Gaza, that the international community has abandoned them, as one of our viewers has said that, “I always thought Israel controls Gaza but today I have realized that Israel controls all Arab countries except for Gaza”, and the silence on the part of Arab countries is very telling, what you say?
Chandan: I would like to add to that one that it’s not all Arab countries controlled by the enemy because we have the Syrian Arab Republic who is a primary backer of the armed resistance in Palestine and hosts many armed resistance groups of the Palestinians and we also have the Lebanese Hezbollah and they are also Arabs as well....But when people talk about international community, they don't think it equals the West because in the main stream lexicon and narrative "international community" means a minority of the people on the planet dominated by Western governments. No, the actual real international community has been defined by the actions of South African government who have opposed this massacre on principal. It is expressed by Peru, by Ecuador, by El Salvador, by Brazil, who have recalled their ambassadors to the enemy entity and also of course Venezuela and Cuba have no relations on principal with the enemy entity "state" as well. So actually this is where our relative power lies, and our relative power lies in the BRICKS because obviously South Africa and Brazil are in the BRICS alliance and other countries mentioned are very close to the BRICS alliance as well and this is what our global struggle is, this is the united global struggle, this is how it manifests and it is great shame that some brothers and sisters among us are snipe upon these very governments who are the only relative power that we have as I said, in real meaningful solidarity, I mean relatively, with our mujahed resistant people of Palestine.
Press TV: That is an interesting point you have raised Mr. Chandan, we have discussed on Press TV time and again how the UN silence, sort of speaks to the facts that institutions that uphold human rights and uphold human dignity are controlled by this minority Western governments and it goes to show how these institutions have failed humanity as a whole, however let me quickly get to this point saying with theme of the West and the UN right now, we have Valeri Amos and other UN officials however I did know something interesting that whenever the UN officials do speak about the war in Gaza they speak of it as it is an equal war between two military powers ,how do you view that ?
Chanedan: You are correct to raise this, absolutely it is insincere and utter lie and they know it very clearly themselves, ... What they are doing is minimizing the damage done to the international operating system of white supremacy and neo-colonialism, that is what Valerie Amos is involved in that, now people of the world can see and there is no doubt that the enemy entity is targeting civilians, targeting children, targeting areas where civilians are gathering to defend other injured brothers and sisters and targeting them again. The world can see it, so representatives of the globally operating system of neo-colonialism need to say something about it, and if they don’t give some kind of crocodile tears for the consumption of main stream media then it would expose them even more and radicalize people of the planet even more that the wise ones among us, the ones that can see through the deceit don’t need to fool for this manipulation, that we are becoming more incense and we are becoming more radicalized as direct result of what the white colonialist settle state are doing with backing of the West. Let these Western governments who are showing some stingy words towards the Palestinian people, let them take the basic steps that have been taken by our so-called Latin American family to recall their ambassadors from this murderous entity, they won’t do it because they support this murderous entity, and they support strategic aimed off NATO which is in harmony with white colonial settler state including Qatar and Turkey who are no friends to the Palestinians whatsoever because if they were they would not be actually developing war against people who are supporting the Palestine revolution i.e. Lebanese Hezbollah and the Syrian Arab Republic and that Arab Spring are on the door step of the greatest defender of the rights of the people ...and like I said before unity is the only antidote, anti-imperialist unity, anti-NATO unity, anti-Zionist entity.
Press TV: And very very quickly if you can Mr. Chandan let’s talk cease-fire, do you see it in the future ? Do think it is a good idea? If so, what should it look like?
Chandan: You know the Palestinian blood is being played upon, is being hustled upon, is being pimped-out by Turkey and Qatar who are in actual alliance with the white colonial settler state and the West. These are all combined with NATO forces, they are playing with ceasefire politics and they must be removed and an immediate cease-fire must take place and all issues must be negotiated, including an end of the siege of Gaza. I really think the best out of this would be resistance actors to team up despite all the complexities, have everyone in the region made mistakes and even criminal mistakes against each other, that should not be a reason for our people and our countries and states to unite in interest of justice for Gaza which is justice for all the people of the world, there is no justice for the people of Egypt or Iraq or Syria without justice for the people of Palestine and vice versa
What follows is an approximate transcription of the interview.
Press TV: Over 1,423 people have been killed, over 8,000 injured, 24 percent of Gazan population is now displaced, 103 UN facilities have come under attack with two main compounds damaged, over 9,000 homes have been destroyed, 130 schools damaged and 24 medical facilities damaged or destroyed and let's not forget that the power plant in Gaza is in tatters and this is a human cost of war, can this ever be justified and will Israel ever will be held accountable ?
Sukant Chandan: ... I remember my comrades saying to me well over a decade ago, my comrades and colleagues from Gaza, they said we don’t watch these Hollywood action movies so cool, we don’t watch these movies of things being blown up, because we are living that life, ... what exactly the same system that is producing these films which are designed to take away, to actually eradicate the humanitarian sensitive feelings that we may have for oppressed people like our dear beloved brothers and sisters and children in Gaza, yes there must come a day that the enemy is held accountable.
Press TV: Mr. Chandan I will get to the issue of the resistance in a bit, but just as a few minutes ago we did here the White House spokesman Josh Ernest criticizing Israel for its attack on a UN school in Gaza, he described the shelling as a code totally unacceptable and totally indefensible, now he is also said that civilian casualties from Israeli attacks in Gaza are too high and he made the comments just hours after the US decided to give Israel three hundred million dollars worth of ammunition from its secret depot with Israel, is this not an example of rather the US double standards when it comes dealing with Israel, specifically as we see Kerry shuffling from country to country around the world trying to act as an honest broker of peace ?
Chandan: Absolutely, but to say that they have double standards that assume that they have one consistent way of dealing with the world, they do not. ..... That Obama is lecturing Russia on being nice to its neighbor, i.e. Ukraine, but none of that is mentioned to the United States’ primary ally the white colonial settler state so-called Israel. When it comes to occupied people of Palestine, so we can see this ranked hypocrisy that is leveled against us, I come back to the issue that how we are going to match and counter this rolling strategic victories not only of the resistance actors but also of empire in the region, we know that unity is the only antidote that would lead us out of this disease, out of this contamination of disunity and being powerless in coming to the defense of Gaza. Unity is the antidote by which Iran, Egypt, the resistance in Palestine and Syria, Lebanese Hezbollah, Algeria and others in the region and wider in global south should come together and unite and face the common enemy.
Press TV: Well Mr.Chandan as you talked about the resistance that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are putting force against Israeli onslaught of the Gaza Strip, now after the attack on a market place in Shojaieye that we saw at least 24 people being killed there, Hamas released a statement and it said that Israelis are committing a deliberate act of revenge and mass murder after feeling to make any military progress in the offensive against the Palestinian resistance, do you see it that way that Israel has failed to achieve the military goals that it set out to achieve ?
Chandan: Absolutely, Hamas and al-Qassam brigade are part of a plural versal resistance that includes PFLP, DFLP, the al-Quds brigades and the popular resistance communities and others. The whole united resistance including the Hamas actually want to say that this is a manifestation of frustration of the enemy that 60 or 70 of the occupation troops have been eliminated by the resistance and really we have seen this time and time again, haven’t we? we have seen UN institutions in Gaza being targeted directly by the enemy and we also saw that let’s not forget in the brutal occupation of the white colonial settler state in Lebanon, remember in Qana, of a UN compound in the late 90s, it was targeted it was full of scores of families and scores were martyred there and again in July 2006 the same United Nation building in Qana which I visited in 2007 was again targeted, so this is the nature of the beasts and the white colonial settler sate is an integral part of the so-called West. It’s the neo-colonial international entity in which we are facing and the people of Gaza are bearing the brunt and the people of Gaza deserve the solidarity of all the countries of global south and of course all pro-humanity people across the planet.
Press TV: We earlier saw the Palestinian envoy to the UN speak to reporters when he said that I agree when Palestinian say, specifically in Gaza, that the international community has abandoned them, as one of our viewers has said that, “I always thought Israel controls Gaza but today I have realized that Israel controls all Arab countries except for Gaza”, and the silence on the part of Arab countries is very telling, what you say?
Chandan: I would like to add to that one that it’s not all Arab countries controlled by the enemy because we have the Syrian Arab Republic who is a primary backer of the armed resistance in Palestine and hosts many armed resistance groups of the Palestinians and we also have the Lebanese Hezbollah and they are also Arabs as well....But when people talk about international community, they don't think it equals the West because in the main stream lexicon and narrative "international community" means a minority of the people on the planet dominated by Western governments. No, the actual real international community has been defined by the actions of South African government who have opposed this massacre on principal. It is expressed by Peru, by Ecuador, by El Salvador, by Brazil, who have recalled their ambassadors to the enemy entity and also of course Venezuela and Cuba have no relations on principal with the enemy entity "state" as well. So actually this is where our relative power lies, and our relative power lies in the BRICKS because obviously South Africa and Brazil are in the BRICS alliance and other countries mentioned are very close to the BRICS alliance as well and this is what our global struggle is, this is the united global struggle, this is how it manifests and it is great shame that some brothers and sisters among us are snipe upon these very governments who are the only relative power that we have as I said, in real meaningful solidarity, I mean relatively, with our mujahed resistant people of Palestine.
Press TV: That is an interesting point you have raised Mr. Chandan, we have discussed on Press TV time and again how the UN silence, sort of speaks to the facts that institutions that uphold human rights and uphold human dignity are controlled by this minority Western governments and it goes to show how these institutions have failed humanity as a whole, however let me quickly get to this point saying with theme of the West and the UN right now, we have Valeri Amos and other UN officials however I did know something interesting that whenever the UN officials do speak about the war in Gaza they speak of it as it is an equal war between two military powers ,how do you view that ?
Chanedan: You are correct to raise this, absolutely it is insincere and utter lie and they know it very clearly themselves, ... What they are doing is minimizing the damage done to the international operating system of white supremacy and neo-colonialism, that is what Valerie Amos is involved in that, now people of the world can see and there is no doubt that the enemy entity is targeting civilians, targeting children, targeting areas where civilians are gathering to defend other injured brothers and sisters and targeting them again. The world can see it, so representatives of the globally operating system of neo-colonialism need to say something about it, and if they don’t give some kind of crocodile tears for the consumption of main stream media then it would expose them even more and radicalize people of the planet even more that the wise ones among us, the ones that can see through the deceit don’t need to fool for this manipulation, that we are becoming more incense and we are becoming more radicalized as direct result of what the white colonialist settle state are doing with backing of the West. Let these Western governments who are showing some stingy words towards the Palestinian people, let them take the basic steps that have been taken by our so-called Latin American family to recall their ambassadors from this murderous entity, they won’t do it because they support this murderous entity, and they support strategic aimed off NATO which is in harmony with white colonial settler state including Qatar and Turkey who are no friends to the Palestinians whatsoever because if they were they would not be actually developing war against people who are supporting the Palestine revolution i.e. Lebanese Hezbollah and the Syrian Arab Republic and that Arab Spring are on the door step of the greatest defender of the rights of the people ...and like I said before unity is the only antidote, anti-imperialist unity, anti-NATO unity, anti-Zionist entity.
Press TV: And very very quickly if you can Mr. Chandan let’s talk cease-fire, do you see it in the future ? Do think it is a good idea? If so, what should it look like?
Chandan: You know the Palestinian blood is being played upon, is being hustled upon, is being pimped-out by Turkey and Qatar who are in actual alliance with the white colonial settler state and the West. These are all combined with NATO forces, they are playing with ceasefire politics and they must be removed and an immediate cease-fire must take place and all issues must be negotiated, including an end of the siege of Gaza. I really think the best out of this would be resistance actors to team up despite all the complexities, have everyone in the region made mistakes and even criminal mistakes against each other, that should not be a reason for our people and our countries and states to unite in interest of justice for Gaza which is justice for all the people of the world, there is no justice for the people of Egypt or Iraq or Syria without justice for the people of Palestine and vice versa
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